RG’s 2020 mule deer – 7mm DAKOTA/160gr BIB BT.

Locating Matt’s buck was a miraculous convergence of intuition, time, and space . . . as was – the early morning prior – finding mine. We had decided, the evening before, to go directly to a specific location, and arrive there no later than sun up, to glass for still foraging bucks sporting, “shooting sized” racks . . . well – “that was the plan.”

However, nine days since the opening gun, as we sped past a branch/gate, off the [main] two-track – and not a vehicle had been down the seldom used path, my brain adopted a “new’ plan – open the gate! Roughly a mile “in”, we stopped to glass. Before the binocular came to eyes, four ELK materialized on the open prairie, headed for Rough Creek . . . Just as quickly as they had sprung into view, the elk shrank to mule deer size: two of them, to the naked eye, showing off decent antlers! When the bino made eye-socket contact, the better of the pair proved to be a 4×4, featuring deep forks, and, we guessed about a 22” inside spread – good enough, on a tough hunt, for a fat old man, who wanted to “test” the 7mm DAKOTA/160gr BIB BT combination, “one more time” . . . perhaps we could score a double, as the second buck was, if narrow, heavy and tall, with very good forks.

We watched the foursome (two were ultra-dinks, barely forked-horns) until they passed through a saddle, over the divide and into the head of a deep and wide cut on the North/NW face: a locale I know well. Luck was on our side – this day, the incessant wind favored our position. We drove the quads, through a saddle, and, staying low, motored along the divide, toward where we last observed the deer. A good 1/2 mile short of where we wanted to position ourselves, we parked, un-assed the quads, donned the day-packs, grabbed rifles, ammo, etc., and began discussing options. After comparing several scenarios, we decided to deploy per Matt’s best plan, with good potential to produce a double: a solid plan.

Together, we crouched and crawled, headed to vantage point 1. Well short, I rose enough to take a peek – perfect – “there they are!” Surprisingly, for a ‘has been’ with fake knees and pinned back, I was quickly belly down! Not 200 yards to our N/NE, antlers were visible! We off-loaded the day packs and other, “excess” gear, and continued our approach to the divide, where we could position our bi-pod equipped rifles for action, and sure-fire clearance ahead of the muzzles . . . upon settling in, the bucks were GONE! We looked and glassed “everywhere” – not an antler tip, nor ear – how, during the minute or two we were crawling blind, wind, “on our side”, did we, “blow them out”?!? We sat up and glassed . . . and watched . . . and glassed . . .

I whispered to Matt that I was going to back-out, get comfortably out of sight, and go all the way to the point of the spur we occupied – perhaps viewing up the deepest cut off the opposite ridge would prove possible. The point revealed a panorama of just more empty coulees and bare aprons. I looked back at Matt, now, about 150yd to my south – he, too, was stumped. As a last resort, and running low on patience, I got out a predator-call and was going to sound an alarm, when, once again, antler tips were exposed above the nearest ridge! The bucks were still feeding on a shady North face, where, now, I expected them to lie down. Instead, a handsome, but narrow 4×4 walked out the mouth and into the bright sun – range,197 yards! Decision time!. Through the scope, at 8x, the tines were all long enough – the inside-spread, only just to the ear-tips. “It’s the smaller of the two, but pretty good – “OK, shoot him, and when the BIG one pops out, Matt will complete our double!” BOOM, WHOP, and a 75 yard sprint later, the 4×4 was a pile of meat, awaiting pics & tagging.

The other three bucks complied with the outline, pogo-hopping to about another 50-60 yards from where my buck had stood for the shot! Damn, I had shot the BIG one – “there’s going to be some ground shrinkage!” Matt opted to pass up the other, which did provide plenty of opportunity, but proved to be a heavy, high, & narrow 4×3! Another great hunt. A few pics, some discussion, telling and re-tellings, and the field-dressing completed and the buck secured to the quad . . . heading for the locker. Ground-shrinkage aside, a decent prairie mule deer buck.

Nice tine lengths make up for lack of spread (20&1/2″ inside), shorter than expected beams
(22″ and 20″) , and mediocre mass the quick gross was 155″ – another great hunt. The switch to the Gabby Hays hat is to keep the hat ON and the eyes shaded from the prairie sun while speeding across the open range!

Matt’s Wyoming mule deer 2020

Matt with his “gumer” 4×4 (OLD, as in worn-to-gum-line molars) – a very nice buck for this year, as conditions were tough (for the six days we hunted, 82-87 Deg. and 20-35mph breezes), and deer were scarce. Matt had passed-up a 203yd shot at this buck on our initial afternoon (10/4), stating, “it’s the first day . . . and he’s a little crab-clawed” . . . Three days later, we returned to that vicinity, hoping to locate the buck again – if we could have found him, ‘ in the right spot’, I’d have shot him while making a movie . . . no luck. That day – we glassed up a mere three dink & mega-dink bucks and a few does.

Six days later, having seen (except for mine) nothing even close to this buck, Matt and I decided to try re-locating the old buck – intuition paid off! Just after sunrise – yup, we were a little late – we climbed a ‘flat-top’ (butte), staying below the sky-line, and began glassing to the South and SW, where we expected the 4×4 and his high & heavy, but narrow 3×4 pal would be foraging . . . no go. I decided to work around to the north side, and glass to the North/NW – bingo!! The pair were working up a coulee about 5/8ths of a mile to our north, moving N/NE, up the coulee, searching for a shady hide-out . . . after about two hours of intensely watching their back-track, they decided to lay-low in the last possible draw, before needing to either cross 1/4 mile of prairie, or, turn back – ball in our court!

Matt pulled off a perfect stalk, and crawled to a distance of 237yd, while I stayed slightly behind, but where I could observe the bucks and the potential action. While Matt had the drop on the pair, I decided to slither into a more comfortable position and sit-up, with my back against a convenient ‘rock’ – the tall narrow buck saw my move and stood up! The bigger buck was unfazed, but presented only a partial head-shot. Following a tense forty-five minute stand-off, Mr. Narrow turned, walked over to Mr. Gumer and kicked him twice! The big boy was on his feet, presenting a, “Texas heart-shot”! Matt remained patient until the 4×4 turned to a quartering [away] angle: BOOM, whop, DRT. This was Matt’s second mule deer buck using the Preditor actioned .300WSM/152gr BIB BT @ 3250fps – both DRT.

Matt’s 2019 Wyoming mule deer – 55yd, .300WSM/BIB 152gr BT -DRT. Very similar in gross score -about 166″ -somewhat different configuration.

Matt – 417yd mule deer, 25IdiotMag aka 25/300WSM, 110gr BIB BT

Clearly, my video cam is not professional grade, and I am not a pro photographer. Still, despite the poor quality, due to file-size limits, you will clearly see the bullet impact, as the [windage/drop] chart stated, a full 1.5MOA (about 6″ – I was thinking a little less) to the right of the front leg line. None the less, very acceptable shot placement. Regrettably, I had the cam locked-up too tight to pan & follow . . .

Matt had dialed in the about 3 MOA for elevation, above the 200yd zero. Of the mule deer bucks (I think, 7) which Matt has shot with the 257IdiotMag/110gr BIB BT combination, this is the only one which traversed more then ten feet following bullet impact – he went about 100yd! The 110gr BTs exit the muzzle at 3540fps – at 425yd, V should be about 2850fps and deliver 1985 ft-lb of energy. That was a tough year –  our 6th day of hunting, and the best buck we had seen.


Will  BIB bullets kill game? None of us are professional photographers, so these are “real huntin” pics – I hope you enjoy.

How about this stone sheep, far northern BC, Canada, August, 2017: My pal, Chad, 488 yards, 6.5×284, 135Gr. BIB BT; “dead right there”. Thank you for your trust, Chad! 🙂IMG_0616.JPG

Here’s what Chad did the previous fall, southern BC, Canada, bighorn sheep: same 6.5×284, BIB 135 Gr.  BT, again, DRT from 340 yards. Two rams – that’s a lot of trust – thank you, again, Chad! 🙂IMG_0448.JPG

July, 2018 Chad added a Dall ram to his collection! 🙂 A very nice 36″, from a distance of 400 Yd. (steep down-hill – this was the “shoot to” range), NW Territories. Chad used the same 6.5×284/135 BIB BT combination as the previous pair of rams – three consecutive rams, ‘all dead-right-there’. This time, on a full broad-side, the 135 left a golf-ball sized exit.IMG_0788.JPG

Here, Chad is in a more civilized setting, having dispatched a pair of hogs and a c-dog with his .20 Practical & BIB 40 Gr. BT – all DRT (dead-right-there)!IMG_0923.JPG

How about the BIB .204 Cal., 40 Gr. BT? Here’s a series of notes, exchanged with Steve, from New Mexico, covering a four year span: a pair of similar pics, of two nice coyotes!   Keep reading – you’ll see that Steve is not an armchair coyote hunter! Thank you, Steve, for allowing BIB to share in your success. 🙂 RGIMG_0917.JPGOn Nov 2, 2015, at 1:41 PM,  Steve wrote:
 Hey RG, received the bullets and boy do they shoot! Most accurate 20 cal. bullet I’ve shot!

Hope to try out on coyotes very soon.
One thing I noticed was the wind doesn’t seem to bother your bullets as bad as others.
 I had a 10-15 mph 90° cross wind and the BIB 40 BT’s,  40 $#@%$,  and 39 &*^%# (all 4 were exact same load) were spot on with 2 different ballistic calcs, but your [BIB] bullets were dang near half the drift at 300 yards.

If these don’t splash, I definitely have found the magic bullet. 

IMG_0914.JPGOn Jan 5, 2016, at 6:00 PM, Steve wrote:
 Hey RG,
 Just wanted to report back on your bullets after giving them a very thorough testing.
 Looks like I have found the “magic bullet”. Over 20 coyotes, several cats, a few fox, and 2 hogs from 10 to 390 yards all DRT, and NO splashes!

I had a couple of marginal hits but they all went down. Even shot a whitetail doe at 200 yards and she didn’t go 10 yards.

I will definitely be buying more, don’t want to run out of these, they do it all!!
 I gave some to a friend that was having the same problems with splashing and he is having good results also. Thank you, Steve

On Feb 22, 2019, at 12:08 PM, Steve wrote:

Hey RG,
I’m in need of some more of your 20 cal bullets, are they still available, if so, how much do I make the check out for?
Over 500 coyotes alone and not one single splash! Thanks, Steve

This is a copy of my original 30BR reamer print – somewhat different than Ronnie Long’s. NOTE: while not necessarily worse (or, better), any reamer featuring a single dimensional change IS NOT a , “Robinett 30BR” reamer! Regrettably, there are a multitude of 30BR reamers made, bearing my name, which feature undesirable dimensional alterations! KNOW WHAT you are getting – if the gunsmith cannot inform you, get a different smith.

The hand written .315, above the neck is the approximate neck length. Note the 1.75 Degree (1 deg. 45 Min.) throat angle. If ordering a new reamer, I’d make two changes: 1) web diameter (.200″ ahead of bolt-face), I’d change to 0.472; 2) neck diameter, I’d increase to 0.331, or, .332″. More than 0.010″ free-bore (on this print, lead), or, over-all-length in excess of 1.525″ is undesirable. RGRSCAN0003.JPG

Sept. 28, 2019 Chad’s latest BC adventure – a nice Mountain Goat Billy – another successful 6.5/284, BIB 135 Gr. BT performance concluded some serious effort and thrills! Thank you for sharing, Chad!ChadsMtnGpat2019BIB135.jpg

Initial video attempt – SMALL format, so details are difficult to see. No sound on this video. RG’s 2013 DIY Wyoming mule deer: .257 (Roberts) Ackley Imp. , 674 Yd. , DRT (dead right there), BIB 110 gr BT, at 3330 ft/s. For those interested, note the mirage (L-R), and how much easier it is to observe, thus “read”, along the straight lines/edges at the tops of the feeder draws . . . that was a 10-12 MPH prairie zephyr – shot at quartering (1/2 value) angle. Long time huntin’ pal, Joe spotted while son-in-law, Matt, filmed. RG


Hailey's elk 2018
Gurlz can shoot ’em too! Here, Hailey shows off her first Wyoming bull elk: one shot, DRT – well, within 10 feet of the reception zone! From a distance of 500yd, to harvest this beast, Hailey needed but one shot from her 300 Win. Mag., Burris eliminator, Rem 700: ” One shot, took 5 steps and fell over DRT! ” Hailey’s 300 Mag, was running a BIB 187 gr FBHP Match bullet.

Now, she’s almost showing off! Hailey let the air out of this Wyoming mule deer buck via her 6.5×284 Savage Light Weight Hunter rifle:  “shot from 350yd , slight quartering away, one shot behind the shoulder, then, through the off-side shoulder, & ended up under the hide – DRT!” Hailey’s 6.5×285 launched the BIB 135gr BTHP Match bullet at 3,000fps. Another one shot harvest for Hailey!

Here, we have clear evidence of Hailey’s (above) father, Rick, trespassing in my, “honey-hole” during the 2015 Wyoming season, when I was on the far side of the state pursuing elk ! I had “warned” Rick that going into that draw could be dangerous . . . he didn’t seem concerned. By ignoring my warning, Rick had to settle for this measly 190 &5/8ths” (gross score) mule deer. On that occasion, Mr. Rick was toting the 300 Win. Mag, and shooting BIB 187gr FBHP Match, at near hand-to-hand combat distance.